Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:33:20 -0400 From: "Edmond A. Richards" Subject: COZY: ID Plate Location Just a dumb question, What is the preferred location for the metal ID plate. From my recollection of the FARs it must now be on the outside of the aircraft and they recommend "on the fuselage, near the tail". (What Tail?) My thought was to locate the ID plate either on the vertical portion of the fuselage, under the strake, just forward of the cowling flange or, on the inboard surface of the lower winglet. Thoughts or suggestions? Ed Richards Cozy #88 N826ER Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:36:17 -0700 From: Eric Westland Subject: Re: COZY: ID Plate Location Ed, I asked and re-asked this because I wanted my data plate inside on the headrest and received a different answer depending on who I asked. When it came time to get my airworthyness certificate, I went through Seattle MIDO. My inspector told me that the regs said outside like you stated, but that it was open to interpretation depending on the circumstances. When I told him that I wanted to minimize any part that could potentially go through the prop, he agreed happily that inside would be fine as long as it was viewable when the plane was on the ground. However, he did caution me that I may later run into some other FAA person that could interpret the reg his way and see me in violation. I ended up with _three_ MIDO inspectors showing up to look at my plane that day (a very long story) and all agreed I was in compliance. As I understand it, the "outside" part came to be because the DEA wanted to be able to ID planes in their drug fighting efforts. However, all they require as I remember is the make/model and serial number. This info does not need to be displayed on a fireproof data plate, so I intend to make a small label and place it under the strake on the fuselage side. This is what I have seen on some Berkuts. "Edmond A. Richards" wrote: > > Just a dumb question, > What is the preferred location for the metal ID plate. From my > recollection of the FARs it must now be on the outside of the aircraft and > they recommend "on the fuselage, near the tail". (What Tail?) My thought > was to locate the ID plate either on the vertical portion of the fuselage, > under the strake, just forward of the cowling flange or, on the inboard > surface of the lower winglet. > > Thoughts or suggestions? > > Ed Richards > Cozy #88 N826ER From: SWrightFLY@aol.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:07:22 EDT Subject: Re: COZY: ID Plate Location In a message dated 10/3/99 11:35:51 PM Central Daylight Time, ewestland@altavista.net writes: << When I told him that I wanted to minimize any part that could potentially go through the prop, he agreed happily that inside would be fine as long as it was viewable when the plane was on the ground. However, he did caution me that I may later run into some other FAA person that could interpret the reg his way and see me in >> The local GADO approved it inside my Varieze cockpit behind the front seat below the canopy so you can see it while standing outside the aircraft while standing on the ramp.......but this was in 1982. Steve Wright Wright Aircraft Works LLC: Electric Nose-Lift for EZEs Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Pollock Subject: Re: COZY: ID Plate Location Ed Richards wrote: >What is the preferred location for the metal ID plate. We placed our ID plate on our Velocity on the inside of the left winglet bottom. Michael.Pollock@mci.com Flying Velocity N173DT Building Cozy MKIV #643 From: cdenk@ix.netcom.com Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:10:59 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: COZY: ID Plate Location Was commented fireproof data plate - I read possibly not. I think a very good reason to have a fireproof (engraved stainless steel) is, hope never happens to anyone, if incident and aircraft burns, likely plate will be left to identify whats left. And this could be an airport fire while tied down or hangared. They could find the owner. From: SWrightFLY@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:40:28 EST Subject: Re: COZY: ID Plate Location In a message dated 12/13/99 11:02:01 AM Central Standard Time, cozy@extremezone.com writes: << There is no fixed rule for the location of the ID plate on a canard airplane, so each inspector or DAR might have his own preference >> Mine was on the inside of the cockpit on the side of the fuselage next to the fuel gauge in the Varieze. The FAA guy said as long as he could read it standing outside the plane it did not matter where I put it. Steve Wright Stagger EZ N700EZ Wright Aircraft Works LLC Wright Aircraft Works LLC: Electric Nose-Lift for EZEs Sponsor- Canard Aviators canard Aviators page