From: PDSTRAND Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:56:27 EST Subject: COZY: Landing Gear Featherlite is starting a COZY landing gear layup run this week. They will make gear for anyone who has sent them a check before the run is done. The next run will probably be in 2 months or so. Pete Strand #534 Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 22:07:36 -0500 From: "Jeff S. Russell http://www.AeroCad.com" Subject: Re: COZY: Landing Gear PDSTRAND wrote: > Featherlite is starting a COZY landing gear layup run this week. They will > make gear for anyone who has sent them a check before the run is done. The > next run will probably be in 2 months or so. We are still down on our 3 phase power for our 480 volt oven that bakes our S-2 landing gear. We are hoping only to be about 3 more weeks before the power is on and gear can be produced again. Featherlite is the only other supplier for the gear at this time. -- Jeff Russell/AeroCad Inc. E-mail: Jeff@aerocad.com P.O. Box 7307 Port St. Lucie FL. 34985 Shop# 561-460-8020 Home# 561-343-7366 Composite workshop info: http://www.Sportair.com Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:17:00 -0600 From: Darren DeLoach Subject: COZY: Wicks Chap 8 list Getting ready to buy parts for the next few chapters, and noticed the Wicks Chapter 8 "A" kit has two curious discrepancies: The 2 AN525-416R18 screws are missing from Wicks' list, and Wicks added in five MS24694-S75 screws for no apparent reason. I'm going by the parts list on plans page Ch 2 p. 3. Sure woulda been easier to just get the A kit and not have to spell out each component... -- Darren DeLoach http://www.deloach.com Chap. 6 From: Marc J. Zeitlin Subject: COZY: Wicks Chap 8 list (fwd) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 98 13:46:04 EST Darren DeLoach writes: >Sure woulda been easier to just get the A kit and not have to spell out >each component... I have (many times) ordered a "Chapter Kit" from Wicks and put in a couple of "delete item" lines, and a couple of "add item" lines. This way, I end up with five lines instead of sixty. They've never screwed up. -- Marc J. Zeitlin Email: marcz@an.hp.com Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:48:22 From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: COZY: Rt Angle Oil Filter Adapter Just added a new page to our website featuring neat stuff from other suppliers. First item to show is the new right angle oil filter adapter from B&C for Lycoming engines. If interested, check out the following link: Bob . . . //// (o o) ===========o00o=(_)=o00o========= < If you do, > < What you've always done, > < You will be, > < What you've always been. > ================================= Date: Tue, 03 Feb 1998 17:53:44 -0600 From: Mike Davis Subject: COZY: Airplane Plastics This may be old news to some but Airplane Plastics has had its telephone area code changed. It is now (937) for both voice and fax. My building partner has ordered his Mark IV canopy $537. with a four week delivery. The rear four windows are another $244. When I ordered mine three years ago it was $500 for the entire set. I have access to a large supply of 1/4-inch Lexan. For $244 I am going to experiment with molding a set of rear windows. Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 17:33:23 -0500 From: Paul Burkhardt Subject: COZY: O-ring source Does anyone have a source for o-rings? I'm looking for the viton type. Thanks. Paul Burkhardt Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 20:06:10 -0800 From: "LCDR James D. Newman" Subject: COZY: Re: O-ring source Hi Paul and All, >Does anyone have a source for o-rings? I'm looking for the viton type.< Yes. Contact your local Parker-Hanifan distributor, or call the Parker Seal Group, O-Ring Division in Lexington, KY at (606) 269-2351 (this is the latest ph # I have). Did you get your Click Bonds? Infinity's Forever, JD From: Marc J. Zeitlin Subject: COZY: O-ring source Date: Fri, 20 Feb 98 9:36:37 EST Paul Burkhardt; >Does anyone have a source for o-rings? I'm looking for the viton type. Call: Apple Rubber Products 1-800-828-7745 www.applerubber.com They have every type of O-ring in every size known to man. Get their catalog. -- Marc J. Zeitlin Email: marcz@an.hp.com Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 13:51:43 -0500 From: peter Subject: COZY: Re: [canard-aviators] O-ring source McMaster-Carr lists viton o-rings in their catalog. Have to buy a min quantity by package. Varies between 5 rings to 100 rings depending on size $8 to $14 per package. My cataog is older so prices may be different. They do have a web site. unfortunately the URL is at home. Try http://www.mcmaster-carr.com That works, just tried it. Pete Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 13:46:14 -0800 From: Dick Subject: COZY: Re: [canard-aviators] O-ring source I have had good luck with Chief Aircraft Inc. from Grants Pass, OR over the years. They have a good selection of Cleveland brake parts including O-rings, wheel bearings and felt seals. They are at 800 447-3408 and http://www. chiefaircraft.com. They have always shipped the same day as ordered, for me. Special thanks to those who gave the heads up on replacing fuel lines. One of mine started to leak when I grabbed a hold of it to remove it!!!!!! (About five years old, braided stainless covered) Dick Grantham Long EZ N17LE Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:38:07 +0100 From: Jean-Jacques CLAUS Subject: COZY: The WELDON's adress Hi all, I have a WELDON electrical high pressure fuel pump. A little joint is broken inside and i want to change it. Can anyone give the WELDON's adress, tel, fax or e-mail ? Thanks for your reply, Jean-Jacques CLAUS Cosy Classic - FRANCE From: cdenk@ix.netcom.com Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:57:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: COZY: The WELDON's adress Weldon Pump 640 Golden Oak Parkway Oakwood, Ohio 44146 phone: 216-232-2282 (Oakwood is a Southeast suburb of Cleveland, Ohio) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:21:37 -0500 From: bil kleb Subject: COZY: supplier - peel ply following dick f's lead, i contacted northern fiber glass sales, inc for some peel-ply. i learned that they have recently added a web site (http://www.nfgsales.com/) and have a $100 minimum order. i spoke with ray miller at (603) 926-1910 and ordered 50 yds of 46" wide polyester peel-ply for $2/yd. -- bil From: Jim Hocut Subject: COZY: Supplier - Brock Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 12:23:59 -0500 The problems with Brock's quality control has been discussed before, but there was never really any solution put forth rather than the remote possibility that another machine shop may eventually be interested in competing. I suspect that most of the time when we builders have received out of spec parts from Brock we have just bitched about it for a while then proceeded to do whatever was necessary to make the parts useable. I recently received some elevator parts from Brock which are significantly off from the dimensions shown in the drawings, and have decided to try starting a revolution. I am writing a polite letter to Brock explaining the problem and am asking them to arrange to get in-spec parts to me as expeditiously as possible. I am also copying Nat on the letter, with the hope that as he becomes aware of the extent of the problem he may have more pull with Brock than individual builders. I would suggest that everyone do the following: 1. Carefully inspect and measure parts received from Brock to be sure that their dimensions are as specified in the plans and that they will work as intended. 2. If anything is out of spec and you can afford the time, let Brock eat the cost of shipping it back to them to make it right. Copy Nat on the correspondence so that he can see the extent of the problem. 3. Even if you end up fixing the problem yourself to save time send a letter to Brock with a copy to Nat explaining in detail what was out of tolerance. If Brock's quality control problem is as large as I think it is (I've had problems with probably a third of what I've received from them where I at least had to attack a part with a file to make it fit - not acceptable considering the price), it shouldn't take long for them to receive enough correspondence, do enough rework, and pay enough extra shipping to get more serious about their quality control. Jim Hocut jhocut@mindspring.com Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 05:25:45 -0500 From: glenn murray Subject: COZY: Custom A/C Parts Has anyone got the new tel no for Custom A/C parts who make the stainless= exhausts for the cozy? thanks Glenn From: Guy TERREN Subject: COZY: Ken Brocks prefab parts Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:17:17 +-100 I need to send an order to ken brocks mfg. I think i'll try to order all the prefab parts in one order. Has any one all the prefab parts already on a data sheet ? I think it can help me to save a lot of time of an exhaustive research. Thanks From: Fritzx2 Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:11:27 EST Subject: Re: COZY: Ken Brocks prefab parts Guy Terren wrote: >I need to send an order to ken brocks mfg. I think i'll try to >order all the prefab parts in one order. Has any one all the prefab >parts already on a data sheet ? I think it can help me to save >a lot of time of an exhaustive research. Yes, I recently ordered all the parts that I wanted from Brock. I have a list of all the parts, (even the ones that I didn't want to order) the prices as of January of this year, and the page where they appear in our Cozy Mk IV plans. I could send it to you or anyone who wants or to Marc to include in the download file list. I think that there might already be a list in the download file list but I'm not sure how current it is as far as prices go. For those that would like a copy, I could send it as a Lotus spreadsheet (original format), maybe as an Excel format if I can convert it, or a text format. What's your pleasure? John Fritz fritzx2@aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 07:17:31 -0800 Subject: Re: COZY: Ken Brocks prefab parts From: alwick@juno.com (ok How) Don't forget you always have the option of making the components yourself. I ended up needing to buy only a few components from Brock. The rest can be done on mill or lathe. It was a lot of fun making them. I ordered the raw materials from Spruce, some of it I got at the local scrap yard. I was pretty much a novice with lathe and mill before. Now I do pretty good. Great way to make use of my lunch hour at work, saves many $$, even though I had to make some of the components twice. I have $12,440 into project, need only purchase prop, instruments, paint, msc., to finish her off! -al wick 71% comp. Cozy MkIV with stock Subaru 2.5 engine. Computerized cockpit. Just completed proto engine mount, now working towards engine ignite! On Thu, 28 Mar 1996 07:17:17 +-100 Guy TERREN writes: >I need to send an order to ken brocks mfg. I think i'll try to order >all the prefab parts in one order. >Has any one all the prefab parts already on a data sheet ? >I think it can help me to save a lot of time of an exhaustive >research. > >Thanks > > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From: "Ernesto Sanchez" Subject: COZY: Digest Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 18:31:19 -0800 Has anyone seen Stet Elliott's "Canard Pusher Digest for the Long- EZ's" ?? Is it worth while?? Ernesto Sanchez es12043@utech.net From: Marc J. Zeitlin Subject: COZY: CP Digest Date: Wed, 1 Apr 98 8:54:16 EST Ernesto Sanchez; >Has anyone seen Stet Elliott's "Canard Pusher Digest for the Long- EZ's" ?? >Is it worth while?? I have the floppy, and while I must admit that I have not read all the CP's, the _potential_ utility (especially for those building L.E.'s and V.E.'s) is great (as long as you don't mind not seeing the pictures). Since it's easily searchable, you can find topics much faster than scanning the paper copies. -- Marc J. Zeitlin Email: marcz@an.hp.com Date: Thu, 02 Apr 1998 06:53:22 -0500 From: "Jeff S. Russell http://www.AeroCad.com" Subject: COZY: updated prices The web site is back on line with the new prices. Foam, glass and resin just keep going up in price. Sorry guys:-) http://www.AeroCad.com -- Jeff Russell/AeroCad Inc. E-mail: Jeff@aerocad.com P.O. Box 7307 Port St. Lucie FL. 34985 Shop# 561-460-8020 Home# 561-343-7366 Composite workshop info: http://www.Sportair.com Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 10:25:26 -0600 From: Tom Brusehaver Subject: COZY: Warning. Re: AeroCad Wow, was I shocked when I went to the AeroCad web site. 3 cookies, I was shocked. I normally say no to cookies (probably a good thing to do), but occasionally I need them (like after logging into the Java Developers Connection). Turns out at least one of the cookies will allow anyone on the ad.linkexchange.com domain. So while you think only AreoCad get info about you, the reality is that anyone on the ad.linkexchange.com domain will have access to it. If you are getting spam from unknown sources, you might blame AeroCad. Turn off you cookies, if you want to preven it. From: "Mark Turner" Subject: COZY: Cookies [Off Topic] Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1998 16:03:16 -0600 It never ceases to amaze me how much wrong information there is running around regarding cookies!! Rule #1: Cookies can only be retrieved by the server that set them and in the path of the server that sets them. >From the 'Cookie Specification' on the Netscape site: A server, when returning an HTTP object to a client, may also send a piece of state information which the client will store. Included in that state object is a description of the range of URLs for which that state is valid. Any future HTTP requests made by the client which fall in that range will include a transmittal of the current value of the state object from the client back to the server. The state object is called a cookie, for no compelling reason. Thus the ONLY information that can be obtained by the use of a cookie is information that the exact same server has already sent it - END OF STORY!! BUT, just to make people happy and all warm and fuzzy - the 'Link Exchange' and 'Web Side Story' links have been removed from the AeroCad web page. Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 07:06:53 -0600 Subject: COZY: Saber Manufacturing Update From: resiebert@juno.com (Reid E. Siebert) Hi Gang, I've known Judy Saber since Nat & Shirley introduced her to me at Sun-N-Fun '95, and we've been friends since then. Over the years of participating in this group I've seen a lot of misleading information concerning her prop extension business, and asked her to clarify it for me. Below is what Judy and Lynn put together, and sent to me: Woofter, Saber, and Prop Extensions The origin was a company called Lynn Woofter Custom Metal Fabrication, founded by Lynn Woofter as engineer and machinist, and Judy Saber as machinist trainee. During their first 3 years in operation, Lynn and Judy worked together producing machined and welded parts for the homebuilt industry, primarily the Defiant and Lancair. It was after 3 years of full-time machining under Lynn's tutelage, that Judy first started making prop extensions. Lynn designed and built the first two extensions, and Judy made all subsequent extensions. For the next year, there were two product lines within their company. Judy was responsible for making prop extensions for the full variety of engines, props, and planes. Lynn created prototypes and continued producing such complex weldments as landing gear and engine mounts. After that year, Lynn shifted to the sport fishing industry. For the next 6 years, his full-time activity was supervising the construction of, and subsequently captaining, several sport fishing yachts. Without interruption, Judy continued running the prop extension business, as she still does today. She has carried on and broadened the excellent reputation that Lynn had first established as a serious hobbyist, and then as the leader in the early years of their company. Although her shop has been in a separate location from Lynn’s since 1993, Lynn continues to act as advisor and consultant, as he has throughout. Lynn returned to manufacturing and design in 1994, focusing on the sport fishing and motorcycle industries. He’s leaving his mark in that industry as well, having designed his own sport fishing teaser reel, for example. You can contact Lynn and Judy as follows: Lynn Woofter Lynn Woofter Manufacturing 750 E. Sample Rd. Bldg. 4 Bay 1, Pompano Beach, FL 33064 Phone (954) 782-8296 Judy Saber Saber Manufacturing 1951 NW 84th Terrace, Pembroke Pines, FL 33024 Phone (954) 436-9496 FAX (954) 436-0015 E-mail JSaber@iname.com _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 15:03:06 -0400 From: bil kleb Subject: COZY: online shopping with wicks! the day has arrived! online shopping with wicks: http://www.wicks.com/aircraft/ they just came online and are looking for comments about the layout, format, ease of use, etc... -- bil Date: Mon, 13 Apr 98 11:55:21 EDT From: "Hill-EQE-EQE, Dana" Subject: COZY: re: Wicks 800 #? Would anyone have Wick's 800 #? 1-800-221-8425 doesn't work. THANX, Dana Hill dana.hill-EQE@state.ma.us From: Epplin John A Subject: RE: COZY: re: Wicks 800 #? Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1998 11:06:58 -0500 Try 1-800-221-9425 Looks like only one digit is off! > -----Original Message----- > From: Hill-EQE-EQE, Dana [SMTP:Dana.Hill-EQE@state.ma.us] > Sent: Monday, April 13, 1998 10:55 AM > To: cozy_builders@hpwarhw.an.hp.com > Subject: COZY: re: Wicks 800 #? > > Would anyone have Wick's 800 #? 1-800-221-8425 doesn't work. > > THANX, > > Dana Hill dana.hill-EQE@state.ma.us Date: Mon, 13 Apr 98 18:15:02 EDT From: "Hill-EQE-EQE, Dana" Subject: COZY: Thanx: I Got it (Wicks #) Thanx I got the #. The Wicks web site had the wrong #! The site appears to have a lot of errors. From: ponciroli@postoffice.worldnet.att.net Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1998 15:09:18 -0500 Subject: Re: COZY: Weldtech Dear Rob - I bought my engine mount from Weldtech. If you want a retractable step, I recommend that you Write to Vance Atkinson at 3604 Willomet Ct., Bedford, TX 76021-2431 Home: (817) 354-8064 Weldtech's number the last time I called them was: Weldtech 1925 Terminal Drive Richland , WA 99352 Home: (509) 375-1307 Richard Lauzon From: cdenk@ix.netcom.com Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 09:14:26 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: COZY: Airplane plasics On 05/02/98 09:32:12 you wrote: > >Try http://www.foxlite.com/airplane.htm > >I am not sure this is the same Airplane Plastics but they do have the Cozy MK >IV Canopy. > > Yes, this is the right place: THE AIRPLANE PLASTICS COMPANY a division of FOX LITE, INC. 8300 Dayton Road, Fairborn OH 45324 800-233-3699 x107 937-864-5607 FAX: 937-864-7010 From: cdenk@ix.netcom.com Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 17:54:32 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: COZY: Prop Bolts On 05/18/98 14:51:56 you wrote: > > >Can anyone help me find some prop bolts the size of AN76-54 and AN76- 16? > My Long-EZ friend needs 6 of each for his prop. He did not find any >through conventional sources. > >__________________________________________ >L. Wayne Hicks SpaceTec, Inc. >Program Manager 3221 North Armistead Ave. >757-865-0900 voice Hampton, VA 23666 >757-865-8960 fax >http://www.spacetec-inc.com > > > > > Prop Bolts are available from: Sensenich Wood Propeller Co., 2008 Wood Court, Plant City, Florida, 33567. Ph: 813-752-2818, Fax: 813-752-2818. Att: Steve Boser, engineer, of Don Rowell, General Manager. The bolts are basically AN bolts with drilled heads and longer thread lengths. The threads are rolled and the bolts are fully in compliance with FAA standards. If you have the prop thickness, crush plate thickness, and the mounting hub type (If its a Woofter extension, they know the dimensions) they can provide the correct length.. They also can provide Woofter extensions. They have E-Mail, but are just changing address, I'll pass on as soon as I get it. From: "L. Wayne Hicks" Subject: COZY: Prop Bolts Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 14:51:56 -0400 Can anyone help me find some prop bolts the size of AN76-54 and AN76-16? My Long-EZ friend needs 6 of each for his prop. He did not find any through conventional sources. __________________________________________ L. Wayne Hicks SpaceTec, Inc. Program Manager 3221 North Armistead Ave. 757-865-0900 voice Hampton, VA 23666 757-865-8960 fax http://www.spacetec-inc.com From: Rick Roberts Subject: COZY: Klaus Savier Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 07:22:06 -0700 Hi Everybody, Anybody have a Fax and/or phone number for Klaus Savier? Rick Roberts Date: Fri, 29 May 98 14:05:29 EDT From: "Nick J Ugolini" Subject: COZY: Hex Heads Screws I talked with Tim (MM Aero) extensively about the engine cowl screws. On monday (after I do some research this weekend) I will talk to him again to obtain some of his part numbers and provide this information to the group. What I have is: Min line item order $15 Min overall order $35 MM Aero, is the provider of all hardware to Wick and ACS. Minimum order would be a problem to us though. Web site is www.mmaero.com Tim gave me the phone number of East Coast Supply (he also supplies them) 407-727-0047 located in Melborn, Fl. They sell only AN type hardware (in smaller quantities than MM). They are sending me a catalog. I will check the catalog out and inform the group... From: "Fred I. Mahan" Subject: COZY: Re: [canard-aviators] hex screws? Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 12:34:13 -0400 John Steichen said: > For years I have used 5/8 long stainless steel 100 degree, or 80 > degree countersunk hex (allen) screws for my cowl attachment. I have > been very satisfied with how they work and the ease of removal using an > angle drill and a hex bit. I am running out of my supply and have been > unable to locate a source for them. > Any body out there have any ideas? John, I just checked with Tim at M&M Aerospace in Miami (1-800-533-5155). He said they have hundreds of different hex and Torx screws (length, diameter, material, etc.) They ought to be able to help you out. Fred in Florida long-EZ N86LE Defiant project From: "ELKIND" Subject: COZY: hinge pin Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 20:31:21 -0700 Can anyone advise where to purchase the teflon coated hinge pin for my worn ailerons. Thanks, Bruce Elkind elkind@pacbell.net Date: Sun, 31 May 1998 23:01:38 -0700 From: Eric Westland Subject: Re: COZY: hinge pin ELKIND wrote: > Can anyone advise where to purchase the teflon coated hinge pin for my worn > ailerons. > Thanks, > Bruce Elkind > elkind@pacbell.net Bruce, GARY A. HALL Work: (954) 979-9494 (Gary Hall Consulting) 777 S. St. Road 7, Suite 506 FAX: (954) 975-8018 (Gary Hall Consulting) Margate, FL 33068 U.S.A. Internet address: garyhall@ix.netcom.com http://pw1.netcom.com/~garyhall/index.html Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 22:13:08 -0400 From: Bill Theeringer Subject: COZY: Hinge Pin Bruce; I have the material to insert into worn hinge pins. It consists of a teflon sleeve that is inserted in place of the worn hinge pin, then an undersized Stainless Steel rod is inserted into the hollow sleeve. The sleeve is segmented (cut to fit) so that each (one inch?) hinge section captivates a segment of sleeve and all rotation is on the SS rod. Contact me via E mail for particulars. Bill Theeringer N29EZ See our award winning Long EZ with Jim Newmans excellent retractable gear at http://www.flash.net/~infaero/infgear.htm Composite Aircraft Accessories HOME: 805-964-5454, SHOP: 805-964-5453 E Mail: Composite_Aircraft_Accessories@Compuserve.com PO Box 21645 Santa Barbara, CA 93121 From: SMilesCozy@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 23:58:44 EDT Subject: Re: COZY: Marker Beacon Antenna in fuselage bottom In a message dated 98-06-07 16:53:19 EDT, cdenk wrote: > If RST thinks the human occupants will create a > problem, the solution is easy - don't buy the RST! That's the beauty of Jim Weir at RST, he sells the know how, not the finished product, so you can do it yourself. Reference any of his articles in Kitplanes, re: "Have a spare nickle? That's enough for a Jim Weir ELT antenna." Kitplanes, May 1997, Page 72. In fact most of what he does sell is in kit form for homebuilders, I personally have built four of his headsets and his four place voice acctivated intercom, high quality and I am very pleased. The intercom does require soldering all the components on a printed circuit board, but it wasn't that hard, took about eight hours to complete. The headsets are way easier, maybe an hour each. All at very reasonable prices. HTH, Steve Miles Cozy MkIV 272 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:24:39 +0200 From: Jannie Versfeld Subject: Re: COZY: Brock Whine (Re: Chapter 13 Canard Attachement) Yep, I am in the same position wrt Brock parts. I was promised three weeks delay due to back order on fork and mkng3+4. I will wait and see.... Regards, Jannie Versfeld #673 Tom Brusehaver wrote: > > Isn't canard attatch in chapter 12? > > > perfectionist is a real pain in the toosh! I'll be measuring everything upon > > receipt from here on. If it doesn't match the plans, it goes back. It's about > > the only recourse when dealing with monopolies [Brock]. With the prices he > > charges you'd think he would be a bit more faithful to the plans. > > Boy no kidding! I have been waiting a month and a half for my last > order (rest of the nose gear parts). I called 'em a couple weeks ago, > and they said the MKNG3's and 4's were backordered? How can sheet > metal be backordered? Weird. The axle fork was back ordered (I can > believe that, because it is a casting, and they probably outsource > that). > > What are our recourses, wasn't someone talking about second sourcing > the metal parts? > > The Brock stuff I have gotten wasn't THAT good, certainly compared to > what it cost. Probably better than anything I could make. From: Jim Hocut Subject: RE: COZY: Brock Whine (Re: Chapter 13 Canard Attachement) Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 21:01:04 -0400 > > The Brock stuff I have gotten wasn't THAT good, certainly compared > to > what it cost. Probably better than anything I could make. When I decided I wasn't going to receive a response to my written complaint about out of spec parts I phoned Brock. I talked to Mike who admitted that very few parts they ship get measured. Measuring everything as soon as it arrives is obviously a necessity. They also told me if I wasn't happy with a part I would have to eat the cost of shipping it back. It just doesn't seem like they care a whole lot about customer support. But if you're the only show in town.... Jim Hocut jhocut@mindspring.com Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 19:17:14 -0500 From: Kent Ashton Subject: COZY: Re: Brock parts In defense of Brock, all the stuff I ordered came in quickly and fit well. I thought some pieces were a little pricey but the trade-off is time or money. --Kent A. Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 09:23:17 -0400 From: bil kleb Subject: COZY: yet another epoxy system last october randy s wrote about fibre glast's new system 2000 epoxy. he mentioned that he spoke with one of their reps and had a quart of resin sent to nat for testing. as he mentions, they have a chart comparing their system to saf-t-poxy (2410/2183+2184), epolite (2427), ez poxy (ez10/ez83+ez84), rae (2426/2177), and pro set (125r/229h) for a 10 ply hand layup of 7781 fabric. their numbers (including the price) appear better across the board although the viscosity appears to be a little higher than most. they site astm testing methods. they also appear to sell the standard 7715 (UNI), 7725 (BID), 3" roving tape, rubber squeegees, mixing cups, epoxy pumps, gloves, ply-9, etc. maybe they should be another supplier of layup materials? (read: COMPETITION IS GOOD!) has anyone tried their stuff? if you're interested in more info, try: (800) 821 3283, mailto:fibreglast@aol.com, or http://www.fibreglast.com/ -- bil Date: Sat, 13 Jun 98 14:34:50 1100 From: Chris Byrne Subject: COZY: (no subject) Dear Builders Has anyone had any luck in sourcing foam and the glass cloth outside of the USA. I am in Australia and trying source locally. After numerous boat building suppliers telling me they have just what I need I have actually found a supplier to the aircraft industry (the major airlines here as well as the glider repairers) and he seems to know what he is talking about. Can anyone supply me with the exact specifications of the cloth, (style number or weave type) I have given him the weights, stands per inch, etc from the Wicks catalogue, but he says there should be a bit more info about it somewhere. At the moment he has a cloth in stock that he thinks fits the requirements for the BID. The specs of the BID that he has is as follows. 8 harness satin (I think that refers to the weave type, 7 over 1 under) 303grams/sq metre which is exactly 8.8.oz sq/yd and 970mm or 38in wide He also mentions a couple of style numbers 7781 and 1581 (these do not mean much to me) Do the part nos RA5277 & RA5177 give a clue to the specs of the cloth or are they just order numbers. The products he has are not made by Hexcel. He also has in stock a UNI made by CS Interglass which I believe is a European cloth and used in all of the glider manufacturing over there. The one he has is the right weight and width etc but its weave is only 80% and 20% not 95% as the plans and the Wicks catalogue states. Have any of the European builders had any experience with Interglass? If I can come up with the correct cloth and foam here I will bring a couple of samples with me to Oshkosh for Nats perusal/approval as I have no intention of using any thing that does not meet the required specs. For two reasons, safety, and the authorities here will only certify an aircraft if it is built to designer specs. Also regarding the Styrofoam for the wings, has any one had any luck in obtaining this outside the states, and if so what are the exact specs of the foam required for the wing cores as the Wicks & Spruce catalogues are a bit vague. I have found a supplier of DOW polystyrene products, DOW FB Styrofoam 2lb density ect.(have not seen it yet so am not sure if this is the correct type) If any one could a few details I would be very grateful as freight cost of USA sourced components looks like being a major cost,(sea charges for the wing cores are more than the cost of purchasing the foam) not to mention the way the Aussie dollar is falling against the US $. (Its lost 12% in the last 2 months) Thanks Chris Byrne SYDNEY (Just starting on MIV 686) From: "Wilhelmson, Jack" Subject: COZY: NAVAID DEVICES INC. Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 10:51:20 -0400 Does anyone have the phone number of NAVAID DEVICES. They used to be in Tenn. but I think they moved to CA. They make the wing leveler that most people use in Cozys. Thanks. Jack Wilhelmson N711CZ. From: "astrong" Subject: Re: COZY: NAVAID DEVICES INC. Date: Mon, 15 Jun 1998 09:34:17 -0700 Jack, As far as I know the Tenn. address is still good.The CA. address is for the GPS Smart coupler to connect the Navaid to the hand held GPS. I bought one of their Smart Couplers and have installed it, it works great, tracking and making the heading changes as you come to it. We will be going to Oregon this Friday . this should give it a good workout. Say Hi ! to Donna for us. Best regards, Alex and Norma Navaid Devices 100 Cherokee Blvd. Chattanooga, Tenn. 137405 Smart Coupler Porcine Associates 244 O' Conner St. Menlo Park, CA. 94025 Ph.(650)326-2669 Fax-(650)326-1071 Web site-www.porcine.com ---------- > From: Wilhelmson, Jack > To: 'cozy_builders@canard.com' > Subject: COZY: NAVAID DEVICES INC. > Date: Monday, June 15, 1998 7:51 AM > > > Does anyone have the phone number of NAVAID DEVICES. They used to be in > Tenn. but I think they moved to CA. > They make the wing leveler that most people use in Cozys. > > Thanks. > > Jack Wilhelmson N711CZ. From: SMilesCozy@aol.com Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 15:36:22 EDT Subject: COZY: Re: [canard-aviators] Warnke(sp?) propellers In a message dated 98-07-18 01:53:47 EDT, you write: > Does any one have a name, phone number and address. In the back of Sport Aviation, under "propellers" I found Margie Warnke Propellers 3906 W. Ina Rd. #200-193 Tucson, AZ 85741 Phone 520-405-9309 HTH, Steve Miles Cozy MkIV 272 From: SWrightFLY@aol.com Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 08:36:48 EDT Subject: Re: COZY: List contributors, post your booth numbers... I will once again be with Nat in his booth which I believe will be next to the large building where Aircraft Spruce is located. I will have the Nose-Lift on display and working in the yellow full scale Cozy MK-4 nose. I encourage customers to come by and give me your criticism of the system. The Nose-Lift is constantly being improved. The most recent design change is now being flight tested by Vance Adkison and he will report on it in Nat's newsletter. My maching shop is looking for more work. If anyone knows of any possibilities, I would appreciate hearing from you. Steve Wright Wright Aircraft Works LLC 615-373-8764 From: lschuler@cellular.uscc.com Date: Wed, 05 Aug 98 11:24:11 -0600 Subject: COZY: Thank You, Thank You, Thank You I'd like to pass on a very hearty THANK YOU to the CSA and, in particular, to Biil Bainbridge of B&C. As some of you know, I won the big door prize, a B&C 90 deg oil filter adapter, at the CSA hot dog roast. WOW! First time I won anything since I won a kiss (darn good one too) many many moons ago at a state fair. Since I will be installing a Subaru SVX in my plane, I can't use the adapter. Had a number of offers at the roast to trade the prize for cash; but decided to check out B&C and see if I might trade it for something else. I had never delt with B&C and was not terribly familiar with their products. I have now. And my personal conclusion is that if the quality of the products is even close to the quality and integrity of MR. Bill Bainbridge, I will be tickled pink with the alternator and regulator I received! Had to chip in a bit of cash for the up-grade to the door prize, but Bill went out of his way (actually, caught him headed for the head) to work with my needs on the SVX. Even offered to mail me a serpentine pully which they normally toss and, to install same on my alernator if I find that it is what I need. Darn nice fellow. Thank you CSA and B&C for the prize, and thank you Bill for all your kind, generous help. Larry Schuler Cozy-IV plans #500 lschuler@cellular.uscc.com From: "Denis Thomassin" Subject: COZY: Suppliers in Canada Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:28:02 -0400 Hi ! My name is Denis Thomassin and this is my first time writing to this list. I leave in Montreal, Canada and I received my plans 2 weeks ago. For now I am in the process of setting up my shop and trying to extract what I nead from the materials quotation I got from Wicks and Spruce Aircraft. They give me a price for everything from first to last chapter. I would prefer to order the materials for Chapter 3 to 7 (fuselage) at first and then see who I do perform. I would also like to ear (or read) from fellow Canadian about supplier in Canada ( if there is any). Si d'autres constructeurs francophones sont à l'écoute écrivez-moi!. D. Thomassin builder 705 Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 18:24:52 -0400 From: "Johnson, Phillip" Subject: RE: COZY: Suppliers in Canada D. Thomassin writes> I would also like to ear (or read) from fellow Canadian about supplier in Canada ( if there is any). end< Denis, Most of the builders in Canada use the American Suppliers such as Wicks or Spruce. My preference is to use Wicks where possible since they tend to take care of me better than AS. Many of the builders in the Ottawa area have there shipment sent to Massina International Airport where the FBO operator holds them for collection by the purchaser. At my last call he charges $10 for this service. You then pick up the materials and walk them across customs in Cornwall where you pay GST. There is no duty to be paid for aircraft parts. Whenever I have used a shipping agent they always get it wrong and you end up paying duty and paying the shipping agent some exorbitant amount. You then need to get the duty sorted at a later date. For small orders I just use the postal service. The post office charges $5 for handling customs plus the GST applicable to the shipment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Phillip Johnson Tel (613) 253 2229 (H) Ottawa, (613) 599 3280 ext. 232 Ontario, Cozy MKIV RG #30 Canada. Subaru EG33 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From: cdenk@ix.netcom.com Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:33:37 -0500 (CDT) Subject: COZY: COSY EUROPE ADDRESS AND Front Hinged canopy detail info. Our address is: COSY EUROPE Uli Wolter Ahornstr. 10 D-86510 Ried Germany Email: flyclassic@aol.com Interested builders need to sign a disclaimer before receiving the plans. I can send text of disclaimer via E-mail. Price is US-$ 25.-- + US-$ 9.-- for shipping. VISA and Master card accepted. US-$ price for US-costomers only. Other customers need to pay DEM 45.-- + DEM 16.-- for shipping. Thanks for cooperation. See you. Regards, Uli Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:27:24 -0500 From: Tom Brusehaver Subject: COZY: Wicks Aircraft Wow, I gotta say some good stuff about Wicks (everyone says bad stuff about other places, I guess it would be fair to say good stuff once in a while). I ordered a bunch of fittings to make a removable pitot system with other misc stuff this morning. I ordered a bunch of fittings that were all 4D suffix. There was a coupler that I ordered an AN910-4D, assuming it was the same thing. About 20 minutes after I called the order the SAME person who took my order called me back I accidentally hung up on her, and she still called me back a second time! She assumed the parts I ordered were to fit together, but this coupling was obviously the wrong size so she wanted to be sure the size I ordered was what I wanted. Then she told me the AN910-1D was the correct size. So she offered to change the order, and I'll get the right part. Great service, reasonable prices, and quality parts. What more could you ask for. Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 20:52:54 -0500 From: Robert and Carla Kittler Subject: COZY: Canopies and Windows For those who are close to that time when ordering a canopy is a consideration, please note. Airplane Plastics Co. has moved into a new location. The process is not yet complete. In the meantime, their new phone number is 937 669-2677 fax is 937 669-2777. Just thought you'd like to know Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 07:38:52 -0700 Subject: Re: COZY: 304 Stainless Steel Tubing/Stock From: alwick@juno.com (ok How) You may want to check your local steel scrap yard. That's where I got mine. I think it cost around $1. Look for bar stock instead of tubing. Tubing more rare. When machining it, make sure you don't get the material hot, it gets hard real quick. As I recall, I ended up overheating a piece, wiping out the drill. Lotsa coolant needed, particularly for band saw. It was fun making the bushings, not difficult holding the i.d. tolerance, and lot of satisfaction in eliminating another Brock part. If you know what I mean (30% price increase in one year %#$). If you can't find the material, I could probably pick some up for you. -al wick 85% comp. Cozy MkIV sn 389 with stock Subaru 2.5 engine. Computerized cockpit. Done building components. Expect completion date 4-30-99. On Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:27:34 -0400 aircraft writes: >To all, > I just tried to order the stainless steel tubing 3/4x125 (0.5 >I/D) >to make the landing gear bushings from Wicks. But they don't carry it >any >more. They are looking for an alternate source. Also tried Aircraft >Spruce >East they don't carry it either. Both have Tubing with the larger I/D >but >that won't work. So if anyone knows where I can find the tubing or >3/4" >solid stock I would greatly appreciate it. >Thanks Dave >TELFORD/ACCI >Dave West >(502) 624-2746 DSN 464-2746 >Fort Knox, KY 40121-5000 >FAX (502) 942-3525 >EMail Address: Aircraft@ftknoxdol-emh10.army.mil > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From: cdenk@ix.netcom.com Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:53:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: COZY: 304 Stainless Steel Tubeing/Stock Try Shapiro Supply Co., St. Louis Mo., 1-800 833-1259 Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 14:39:49 +0200 From: Jannie Versfeld Subject: COZY: Cozy: Canopy Dear All, What is the difference between the canopy for a MKIV supplied by Arcraft Plastics and Aircraft Spruce? Wht is the difference between the Landing struts supplied by Jeff Russel and Feather Lite? Kid regards, Jannie Versfeld #673 Completed Chapter 8 Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 06:04:25 -0500 From: "Jeff S. Russell (http://www.AeroCad.com)" Subject: COZY: Landing gear, pedals and other misinformation Dear canard builders: For some time I have been trying to abide by Marc's request to keep the disagreement between AeroCad and Mr. Puffer off of this forum. These last posts have put me in a position in which I must answer and correct the great amount of misinformation (lies?) and trashing of my company and our products that has been posted here. Just a couple of weeks ago we had to have our lawyer contact Mr. Puffer's lawyer which resulted in his previous apology. We hoped that this would be enough, but it has not stopped. 1. LANDING GEAR - Mr. Puffer posted "You should be aware that Featherlite makes their gear with S-glass. S-glass is about 25% stronger than E-glass, but 10 times more expensive, and you can't tell the difference in a layup. There would be a powerful incentive to reduce cost by using E-glass, so it gets down to the reputation of the supplier for honesty. But there is a little more involved than whether they are equivalent (which I am not convinced they are). I understand you can buy Windows 98 more cheaply from the Chinese (and Iraqis) than you can from Microsoft. It is known as a "Chinese copy." You should be able to buy anything more cheaply from someone who only copies, rather than creates. But can you be sure they are equivalent?" THE TRUTH IS: Our AeroCanard gear legs are and always have been made of S- glass. If we advertise that we use S2 in the gear, then that's what we sell. I will be happy to provide copies of the invoices for the S-glass. We have never used E-glass in them. The gear is laid up in a 2 part mold then pressurized. After a 24 hour cure, an 8 hour ramp post cure is applied in our oven. With the epoxy used, this should give more heat resistance than with other gear. Only Velocity uses E-glass in their gear that I know of. We have ser.#2 main gear and nose strut on our own 4 year old airplane. Any builder is welcome to inspect it at any time. We have drop tested the airplane at 2300 lb. with absolutely no problems. Perhaps we did not drop test it from 6,000 feet into solid granite, but I doubt if anyone else has done so either. We will be more than happy to test the strength of our gear against any others you chose. Mr. Puffer, this is you formal notice, STOP SPREADING SUCH MISINFORMATION! 2. PEDALS - When I started designing the AeroCanard, I looked at what was available for the Mark IV and felt we could make some major improvements in the pedal assembly which, at the time, was only available from Brock. Ours is heavier duty, made with square and round tubing, has knurled rotating aluminum pedals and both sides are adjustable. In addition, I developed a slider mechanism to connect with the lay-down master cylinders. This sounds exactly like what Dennis posted to the group as a description of what he is selling. We were having problems finding a new supplier when Dennis called and asked if he could manufacture the AeroCanard Pedal assembly and sell them. We sent Dennis a copy of our plans for him to use. I do not know what Dennis has done to improve them but encourage him to do so as this is how this 2-seat airplane design has evolved into the 4-seat options we now have. I hope Dennis will share the specifics of what he has done to improve them with all builders. When we shared with the group the fact that these new pedals started with our AeroCanard design, Mr. Puffer replied "This was a lie, and just the latest of many." These are the FACTS, and I leave it to all of you builders to make up your own mind as to which party has lied. 3. PAT YOUNG'S CRASH - Mr. Puffer has, on numerous occasions, stated that Pat Young's canard airplane was not a Cozy MKIV. In his newsletter he printed: "It had an AeroCanard nose with no ballast compartment, an AeroCanard fuselage tub, and Aerocanard instrument panel, and AeroCanard fuselage top, AeroCanard cowlings, an AeroCanard maingear strut, AeroCanard strakes, and AeroCanard engine mount." "It was, in fact, an "AeroCanard" and should not have been registered as a Cozy Mark IV." THIS STATEMENT IS PLAIN AND SIMPLY NOT TRUE. Pat Young did purchase some parts from us. The only AeroCanard items we sold him were fuel strakes, landing gear, engine mount, instrument panel and rear engine cowlings. Pat made his own fuselage tub, nose (ours has a door), and fuselage top -- all built, we assume, by using the Cozy MKIV plans as a guide. Then he mounted a Q200 canopy, hinged forward. Since major changes in construction were made, we agree that if Mr. Puffer does not want it called a Cozy, Pat should call it something else. But, Mr. Puffer should stop this widespread continued attempt to imply that the reason this plane crashed was due to the AeroCanard parts on it. As you can see, there were only a few, and Pat, himself, has stated that they had no effect. Pat has taken full blame for the incorrect canard incidence, wrong weight and balance, removal of vortilons and his aggressive flight pattern. AeroCad manufactures only the highest quality parts that can be made. With the latest in materials and methods. We have tested all parts we offer. And stand behind them. If there is ever a problem, we will be the first to try and make anything right that should be made right. As a builder, we believe you are intelligent enough to read what has been posted recently and be able to make up your own mind. We would prefer not to make personal attacks on anyone. And hope that we will not have to make another such post. -- Jeff Russell/AeroCad Inc. E-mail: Jeff@aerocad.com 2954 Curtis King Blvd. Ft. Pierce, FL. 34946 Shop# 561-460-8020 7:00am to 3:30pm Home# 561-334-6200 Website: http://www.Aerocad.com Composite workshop info: http://www.Sportair.com From: mfacchinelli@sogei.it Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 13:26:46 +0100 Subject: COZY: OILDYNE Canardians, can someone tell me if the OILDYNE ? Commercial Intertech corp. Minneapolis (Berkut retractable gears parts) has an agency here in Italy or Europe ? If they are not represented here, can someone give me the direction to contact them ? (E-MAIL or FAX) Thanks everybody and Merry Christmas from Italy Massimo Bonicelli Cosy Classic I-COSI Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1998 10:49:42 -0800 From: "LCDR James D. Newman" Subject: COZY: Re: OILDYNE Hi Massimo and All, > Massimo Bonicelli wrote: > can someone tell me if the OILDYNE ? Commercial Intertech corp. Minneapolis (Berkut retractable gears parts) has an agency here in Italy or Europe ? I don't know, but you can contact them at . . . > If they are not represented here, can someone give me the direction to contact them ? (E-MAIL or > FAX) Oildyne Donald G. Plooster, Sales Project Manager 4301 Quebec Avenue, North Minneapolis, MN 55428-4998 (612) 533-1600 (612) 533-0082 FAX > Thanks everybody and Merry Christmas from Italy HTH, and you too. Infinity's Forever, JD Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 05:13:33 From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" Subject: Re: COZY: Electronic Ignition?? At 04:50 PM 12/21/98 -0500, you wrote: >How can I get Jeff Rose's number, e-mail address, >or snail mail address? Anyone know? Please! > >E.J. Jeff Rose Electo Aire 105 Gardner Street Chattanooga, TN 37411 615-622-8825 Bob . . . //// (o o) ===========o00o=(_)=o00o========= < If you continue to do > < What you've always done > < You will continue to be > < What you've always been. > ================================= Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 15:31:41 -0800 From: "LCDR James D. Newman" Subject: COZY: Re: Electronic Ignition?? Hi EJ, Diane and All,

> How can I get Jeff Rose's number, e-mail address, or snail mail address?  Anyone know?  Please!

    I can't find Jeff Rose's data at this instance, but I do have NavAid's phone # [ (615) 752-1718 ].  Jeff is in the same building with NavAid.
 

Infinity's Forever,

    JD From ???@??? Thu Dec 31 19:30:58 1998 Return-Path: owner-cozy_builders@betaweb.com Received: from twc2.betaweb.com (majordomo@betaweb.com [206.43.209.18]) by acestes-fe0.ultra.net (8.8.8/ult.n20340) with ESMTP id AAA04348 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 1998 00:16:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from majordomo@localhost) by twc2.betaweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA08932 for cozy_builders-list; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:52:35 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: twc2.betaweb.com: majordomo set sender to owner-cozy_builders@betaweb.com using -f Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by twc2.betaweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id XAA08927 for ; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 23:52:30 -0500 Received: from earthlink.net (ip20.saint-louis4.mo.pub-ip.psi.net [38.10.2.20]) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA10158; Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:50:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <368AF472.561AB61@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 22:50:11 -0500 From: David Domeier X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: norm doty CC: "cozy_builders" Subject: Re: COZY: menzimer aircraft References: <01be346d$a5a3af00$da9d4d0c@188150123worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-cozy_builders@betaweb.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: David Domeier X-UIDL: c1cfd96ae6f66f69a0394ea35b16d198 Norm, Don't know the e-mail address but the phone number is: Menzimer Aircraft Components 760-598-0592 dd