Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 18:27:45 -0800 From: stetson@speed.net Subject: Re: luggage space On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, TODDC2@aol.com wrote: >Jeff Rosson requested information on luggage capacity. I remember an article >about Burt Rutan's Vari-EZ having specialy made luggage to take advantage of >the limmited amount of baggage room available. I wonder if anyone else >remembers this, or possibly has any more infromation (pictures, dimensions >etc.) The Pods' are an option, however you would get some strange looks on >the ramp (drop tanks, on a Cozy!! :-)). The plans built luggage for the VariEze and Long-EZ are nothing to brag about. They are relatively thin containers built from fiberglass that sit up against the fuselage sides in the backseat area below the strake cutout and forward of the consoles. The right one has a large U-shaped channel built into it for the control system tubes to pass through. The sides of the luggage were made from fabric to they could expand if necessary. I've made several week-long trips to Mexico with our group of S.Cal EZ's and don't know anyone who uses them. I can scan the drawings and post them, if someone is really interested. Stet Elliott stetson@speed.net Perpetual Long-EZ builder Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 23:44:03 -0500 From: COZYMK4@aol.com Subject: Re: Your final decision (second) From: Kevin Funk, Cozy Mark 4 #90 I have addressed the issue of baggage compartments many times over before I started this project. We will pack light and mail luggage for long trips. The strake areas are the primary luggage areas on each side and are accessable from 2 openings in the walls from both the front and back seat areas. There are also other places. The centersection wing spar has a chamber that is 7 X 5 inches by 36 inches long, twice, with openings that are 5 X 13 inches. The holes are behind the rear seat backs. The space under the seats is available also but is only 10 X 6 X 2 inches in a wedge. The back seats lift up for access, but the front seats are fastened to the instrument panel, so that the access is from a wild reach from behind the panel. I recommend that this area be used only for those things that you don't mind losing forever :-). The back seats can hold a few tools and a spare oil quart. The nose is minimal and a potential CG problem. The tip of the nose is an optional ballast compartment, and would be useful only under those rare times when I will fly alone in the front seat, and don't want any other weight in the front seat with me. This is therefore almost worthless from a baggage standpoint. I am building mine for low excess total weight CG balance for flight testing. I talked with a guy from Dallas while I was at the canard aircraft fly-in at Hondo, TX in February 1995. He is building the under the wing baggage pods which will carry 40# in each. They have not affected his CG or flight caracteristics of his Long-EZ. He gave me a card that I have promptly misplaced since I figured that I could make my own. They bolt on with 2 bolts at the outer edge of the baggage compartment, inner edge of the fuel tank. I will try and find his info for a future communicae. Hope to see all of you flying soon. Kevin Funk M.D., Lubbock, TX Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 17:31:56 -0500 From: TODDC2@aol.com Subject: luggage space Jeff Rosson requested information on luggage capacity. I remember an article about Burt Rutan's Vari-EZ having specialy made luggage to take advantage of the limmited amount of baggage room available. I wonder if anyone else remembers this, or possibly has any more infromation (pictures, dimensions etc.) The Pods' are an option, however you would get some strange looks on the ramp (drop tanks, on a Cozy!! :-)). The other option is to mail or UPS some luggage (like snow ski's etc.) and pack only what you need for a couple of days in the plane. Just thoughts Todd Carrico TODDC2@aol.com Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:50:48 +1000 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 10:42:10 +0200 From: parkyn@citr.uq.oz.au (Nick Parkyn) Subject: luggage space I think that Aircraft Spruce had special luggage advertised in their catalog! >Jeff Rosson requested information on luggage capacity. I remember an article >about Burt Rutan's Vari-EZ having specialy made luggage to take advantage of >the limmited amount of baggage room available. I wonder if anyone else >remembers this, or possibly has any more infromation (pictures, dimensions >etc.) Nick #00016 Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 22:35:37 -0500 From: NBalog@aol.com Subject: Re: luggage space In a message dated 95-10-31 17:37:50 EST, you write: > The Pods' are an option, however you would get some strange looks on >the ramp (drop tanks, on a Cozy!! :-)). Saw these on a 3-place at Sun 'n Fun this year: look sharp and appeared to be functional. Did make the plane look a bit more futuristic, but what the heck. Don't know who makes these available but I want a set someday. >The other option is to mail or UPS some luggage (like snow ski's etc.) and >pack only what you need for a couple of days in the plane. How about a roof rack for the skis, or bicycle -Norm Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 20:09:31 -0500 From: KSPREUER@aol.com Subject: Re: Tools and Baggage In a message dated 95-10-30 13:54:42 EST, you write: >Subj: No Subject >Date: 95-10-30 13:54:42 EST >From: jrosson@symetrics.IExpress.Com (Symetrics Industries Inc.) >To: cozy_builders@hpwarhw.an.hp.com > >Second, how is the baggage space on the Mk IV? I know what the useful load >capabililty of the plane is, but haven't seen too much details on actual >baggage area. For example ,with 4 people, is there room for a scuba tank or >two or three? Any actual (in the ball park) dimensions of the baggage areas >would be appreciated. > >Third, I am trying to decide what workshop tool I want for Christmas. I am >considering a bench top band saw (I already have a table saw, radial arm >saw, belt sander, drill, saber saw), so the band saw seems the next logical >thing to get of things that cost over $100 or so. What do you all think or >would recommend? > >I actually did a little bit of fiber glass work over the weekend, repairing >some rust damage on my truck. Smelled the stuff and even dripped some on my >hands and no adverse effects, so I guess I am one of the lucky ones who >isn't allergic to the stuff. That is one thing I wanted to confirm before >preceeding. :-) I think the band saw is an excellent tool to have. Do you have an air compressor? That and a die grinder are one of the tools I use the most. Plus the air compressor will come in handy when you get to painting. The die grinder equiped with one of those spongingh looking paint striping disks is an ausome tool for preparing a surface to laminate to. It will also accept a composite cutting disk (2" diamter) that is great. It hold all the attachments that a dremel holds but you don't have to fuse with the motor and it doesn't get hot. Baggage: I see you've gotten a lot of response so I'll be breif. I went out and tried to stick a scuba tank (72 cu. ft steel) in the baggage area. One will fit on either side sticking out a little over the rear arm rests. The strake gets a little too narrow near the L.E. for it to fit in all the way. But there is still room to stuff some clothes around the tanks. Unless you build some external baggage pods which some have done that attach to the wings like torpedos, you should consider the Mark IV a day trip airplane when you have 4 people. I measured the rough dimensions of the baggage areas in each strake. The fuselage side and the bulkhead at B.L. 33 are aprox paralelle to each other and are about 12" apart. These make two opposite side of a trapazoid shapped compartment. The B.L. 33 bulkhead intersects the L.E. and the diagonal that forms the forward inboard part of the fuel tank. Between these two intesections the B.L.33 bulkhead is 22" long. Along the fuelage side wall the compartment is 41" long. The compartment is 8" high at the fuselage and gets a little shallower outboard and toward the L.E. Date: Wed, 8 Nov 1995 22:24:33 -0500 From: TODDC2@aol.com Subject: baggage pods Quite a bit of information on the baggage pods has come accross my screen lately. How much speed do the "pods" cost (speed is money, how fast do you want to go? :-)). How hard are they to get into and out of? How hard are they to get on and off? Space limmitations are a concern to my wife and I. We would like to bring a long another couple every now and then, however it seems like this would cause a baggage (or lack of) problem. I have seen many probable solutions, however, it seems to be a different priority for everyone. I guess this is one problem I will have to deal with when it comes up. No simple solution. (we could fly naked, and make all our vacations at nude retreats! :-0)